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Really good post John. Very clear and very accurate.
For those of you reading this – go over to the right side of the page and order the freelance guide.
Just do it.
You’ll thank me.
ReplyWhat was interesting, Harlan, was how, once I got into this post (which was supposed to be a short note) I started realizing all the dark alleys a client can go down when searching for a good writer. So the piece got more and more detailed.
Wish I’d laid this out for clients decades ago. Would have shortcut some grief, that’s for sure…
ReplyI absolutely love how you brought everything into this post John, not just “how to” hire a copywriter, but what an entrepreneur needs to bring to the table TO effectively hire a copywriter.
And, it’s good to know you’re still not “retired.” 🙂
ReplyThanks. I think the notion that I’m “retired” leaked out when I “semi-retired” from managing the various business projects I started. I actually just went back to writing full-time — I’m working on books, hosting my big damn mastermind, and doing podcasts, social media, and the odd seminar with as much energy as ever.
ReplyNope. There are things out there that frighten me, for sure… but not words. They are our weapon of choice…
ReplyThis should be required reading for anyone starting a business… especially an info-product business.
Clients not going through steps 1-5 is why I gave up on writing for entrepreneurs altogether a couple years ago.
The big guys may have more lawyers and more scrutiny to deal with, but they value copy and their royalty checks always come on time.
With a lot of entrepreneurs, if your copy is a hit they credit the product, or their own genius/skill/charisma…
But if it’s not a run-away winner out of the gate, their assholes clench up and they refuse to spend another dime testing.
The only way to succeed in a business is to know and face the realities of that business… so I 100% agree that everyone looking to hire a copywriter should learn to write copy first.
Which is why I still recommend Kick-Ass Copywriting Secrets to everyone who needs a crash course in direct marketing.
ReplyThanks for the note, Henry. Clients can be trouble, and so can writers. Just trying to smooth the playing field out a bit here…
ReplyHi John Boy!
Great timing!
I am in the middle of looking for copywriters for a upcoming project.
In Survival.
This Post was perfect!
Just grabbed your book on Kindle.
The Entrepreneur’s Guide To Getting Your Shit Together
Thanks!
Heather Ann
Hey, Heather, thanks for the note. Good luck on the big project…
ReplyThanks John. This is very insightful for me. I’m a wanna be copywriter, reading your book, The Entrepreneur’s Guide To Getting Your Shit Together, Joe Sugarman’s, Bob Bly’s and applying what I learn to my own vacation rental business. My goal is to improve my copy to the point where it sells the property. Afterward, I intend to help other clients sell their products as well. Yet, I’m a dangerous rookie. So, I was wondering what those that do the hiring were thinking and how to approach them. Thanks for spelling it out from their point of view.
ReplyWe were all dangerous rookies at one point. Your enthusiasm is palpable, Joe. Keep after it, and good luck.
ReplyI can think of some people that should be hung. They are literally in my mind. Sometimes a person struggles can be added to from the supposed helpers. Some might mean well, others are just sadistic psychos.
There is such a thing as massive invasion of privacy. Well, privacy might not be the word. Human rights and dignity. Don’t expect a person to not get mad with such an egregious invasion of their life and their families.
The reality is, if the world is this fake and it teeters on so little, maybe it’s time it should fall apart.
Can’t put new wine into old wineskins.
By the way, I think you’re a good writer John. Take care.
ReplyAll this from a post on hiring freelancers? You sure you’re on the right blog, Shane?
ReplyI just went through this process after years of writing my own copy and noticing, over and over again, that I am GREAT at critiquing other people’s copy, but can’t seem to see my own writing at all. I’m too close to the product, too close to what I WANT my readers to want.
Anyway, I almost hired copywriters several times and finally pulled the trigger and my lord, it does feel fantastic to have all of this time to work on the parts of my business that I have natural talent for.
I think at the end of the day, hiring a copywriter with a track record that “gets” what you are selling and is excited by it is a business no-brainer. Whatever they charge is going to be small potatoes in the life-cycle of your product, and a good control is like owning rental units in real estate; it just pays and pays.
Anyways, thank you John, you’ve trained, personally or through your programs, every copywriter that’s ever given me good advice, many of my closest friends in business, and the guy I hired. That’s a lot of good karma and I nobody could count all the money in all of the businesses that have to come to life because somebody learned something from you.
ReplyGreat story — I think a number of readers can identify with this.
ReplyVery insightful as usual… what separates world-class copywriters like John from the rest, is depth and experience. The well runs very deep with the world’s top, and can be game-changing, in a good way.
I think it’s very useful for not just copywriting, but for all of us in our niches, to educate customers not only about the USPs we individually bring, but the right questions to ask, as you’ve outlined in the post. With proof elements/testimonials forefront.
Those at the top of our respective games took decade(s)+ to get there; that’s the type of savvy to look for in hiring a freelancer or subject expert in any field. Helping clients know the right questions to ask, to weed out the ‘everyone and their brother with a shingle’ gang from the genuine pros, is very important, in all niches.
to working with the best,
ken
ReplyHi Ken. Always good to hear from you, always great insights.
ReplyWhew, that was 30 plus years of insight in a few paragraphs. All spot on. It might freak out an inspiring new copywriter.
I read this from the standpoint of being a successful copywriter as if I was to be hired. It puts things in perspective as the years of study and work success and failure.
I’m 60 years old, think I could become an “A List” writer by say age 66? In addition to holding down a full time job during that 6 years.
Your comment sir.
Your comment as I very much appreciate and respect your always honest and outgoing rebel opinion.
Steve
ReplyHi Steve. If that’s a serious question… I would warn you away from aiming for “A List” status. It’s like deciding you want to be the next Bruce Springsteen… and no matter how much raw talent you bring to the game, the energy, networking, and skill-honing required to hit the big leagues demands full-time attention for years. Even then, the precise skills and insight required to nail the jobs that are offered to “A Listers” can be elusive. I’d guess that for every 50 hot young writers who aim for those big jobs, only one succeeds enough to reach the next level up… and for every fifty of those, only one will ever become an “A Lister”. We’re talking about a handful of writers who attain that status, worldwide.
However, there’s a big open area between rookie and the “A List”, full of opportunity to be as good as you can be. Lots of money to be made working for non-A List clients (often even more than the A Listers earn), lots of opportunity to partner up with clients you establish a winning relationship with, lots more opportunity to see where you might use your writing skills to create your own place in a niche, and become a full-blown biz owner.
It’s wide open, and age is not a problem unless it is. Meaning, some younger clients may balk at hiring a senior citizen… but if you rely on your results and references, that may not be a huge problem. I know a number of great copywriters in their sixties… however, most have been in the game for decades. But that means nothing.
Online, especially, there are no limits. Your gender, location, habits, religion, age, size, first language… none of it matters, IF you can deliver the goods.
So, keep after it, Steve. We get one ticket in life, and how we use it is surprisingly up to us (much more than we tend to naturally believe). The entrepreneurial world is bristling with risks and dangers, as is life. For some of us, it feels like home.
Good luck.
ReplyJohn
Thank you for the reply.
Yes, I was fishing for information. At 60 years of age decades becomes a word that is not really in my vocabulary.
I keep searching for a second income. I have only one goal for that income over the next 6 to 10 years, to pay cash for a modest home for my retirement, 150,000 to 200,000 dollars.
I can kill two birds with one stone, achieve the goal of debt free living, which is where I am now, but without home ownership, but in addition develop a second income, or career if you want to call it that, so I can still earn once I finally leave my current job of 29 years at that time in the future when I hit retirement age.
I know it is doable, but fear, or the aspect of having to answer to a client does hold me back. I feel that I would be leaving one boss so I could have another one. I am tired of working for other people as an employee.
Thanks John
ReplyMr. Carlton,
I just wanted to personally thank you for your outstanding information and courses. I started studying your course last summer and I went through it last July. I went to work learning all that I could and along the way found a mentor who has been just incredible. I came to find out that he warms up by reading swipe files of your stuff before every project, a fact that I did not know until today.
Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks so much for your course and wonderful blog which I enjoy very much.
Thanks again and God bless!
Mark “Elmo” Ellis
ReplyJohn:
You’re driving straight to the heart of how to snowball a business into a monster that competitors fear and loathe.
Yet there’s a reluctance for MOST entrepreneurs (even grizzled old vets) to hire a copywriter when they could simply “go it alone”, do it themselves, and save a the writer’s fee.
Problem is, this pull-yourself-up-by-the-bootstraps thinking may work when starting a biz, (when you needed to be everything from product developer to janitor), but it doesn’t serve one well if you intend to GROW.
Fab post here John. Thanks for the reminder.
JimmyCurley
ReplyThanks for the note, Jimbo. Good to know famous biz owners like your bad self support this concept…
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ReplyHi John, great post. Highlights your skill set wonderfully.
Tried the email consultant@john… it returns with an error.
How can I contact you?
ReplyHi Michael. It’s actually “consult@john-carlton.com” — try it again, see what happens…
ReplyGreat article John! Thanks for the advice on how to properly hire a great copywriter! Jason Hartman, host of The Creating Wealth Show actually interviewed Everte Farnell aka “America’s good news guy”, and he shared great advice as well on his copywriting expertise and how valuable this marketing tool is in the financial world. Check out the episode http://www.jasonhartman.com/cw-349-professional-copywriting-with-everte-farnell/ and let us know what you think!
Thanks again for your insight!
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ReplyThe post is great. Thank you very much 🙂
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I think often people look at the cost of hiring a good copywriter and hesitate without considering the cost they are paying by losing potential customers who are looking at their material (whether its a website, sales letter etc) and not buying. I\’ve always seen a significant difference in results even as a marketing professional when a professional copywriter is involved in a project.
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ReplyThese are some great steps for hiring a good copywriter. I like how you pointed out that one of the steps is realizing that you need one and your own knowledge level. If the relationship is really that important, I’d want to hire the best one I could.
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