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John,
As usual, your wisdom speaks volumes.
There are a few times where I have tried to educate those that do not see the value of marketing. It did not work so well, and the one I managed to turn to “the dark side” ended up being a pain in the butt anyway.
Heheh…
As for Joe Sugerman, I would enjoy the opportunity to meet him for just 15 minutes…I have one of those ion generators too! =)
Joseph Ratliff
http://www.dynamicwebcopy.com
http://profitablebusinessedge.blogspot.com
Hi John,
thanks for the deeper, more clear explanation of “education” in marketing.
I’ve read the “don’t educate” line from you before … and heard it live — but never really understood how you can/could sell a product with obvious human benefits …
like Joe’s Ion Generator – which I think has now morphed into Sharper Images Ionic Breeze product — a several million dollar a year windfall!, or like our low level laser therapy products
http://www.laserinformation.com
or email kip@rapidnet.com for a free information packet
… WITHOUT educating a prospect about it.
I was also conflicted because in some of early marketing training from Jay Abraham he touted the exact opposite – the importance of educating prospects to your products benefits.
I now understand that I think you both were saying essentially the same thing – don’t waste your time with skeptics or non-believers — but educate those who are inclined to be interested to the benefits they will receive when using your product.
And yet, at another level, it seems that some of the GREAT business fortunes have been made by those who have for-seen (is that a word?) a need/want well in advance of the general public’s perception of that need … and have persisted in educating the public that they really do need … cell phones, Crackberrys, Ion Generators (and low level lasers!) … and once the public finally understands that they need this product, the person/company REALLY cashes in.
Thanks for keeping me “Frosty”!
Kip
ReplyYou have written a great blog today John. You inspire me to have such skill of the written word someday.
I have found myself felling like a person at your lunch with Joe. I kept saying to myself BUT?BUT…BUT?. Eagerly wanting to give my two cents (damn, good thing you have this comment section, or my day would have been shot).
I have always thought of marketing and sales as educating with purpose to make a sale. Great sales people have always educated me to the point that I rarely have any buyer?s remorse. And I?m not talking about educating me on the technical jargon or the actually science of how the crap works.
Like BOSE, they appear to be educating a person on how they get the big sound in to such a small speaker (funny, they rarely mention the LARGER subwoofer). But what they are really doing is marking the benefit of a small speaker with HUGE speaker sound. And the cost of the speakers is worth it cause of how much damn hard scientific work they put in to stuffing that huge speaker into the small space.
Well, that is basically what average Joe tells me who owns these speakers. (If anyone actually went to a place and listen to them side by side you know what a HUGE speaker sounds like, and it don?t sound like BOSE)
Opps, off track. Even with the ION generation (yes concept was new, new as lighting), I believe Joe educated one on the benefits of clean air more then anything else. Am I wrong? The science part severed one purpose, to back up the benefit of lighting strikes, I mean ION generation. (by the way I?ve own one of these units myself, don?t know if I got the benefit, but the air smelled nice).
But in the end BOSE and ION generators are easy to for the consumer to try and live with regardless of the science behind them.
But in the end Software to End The Need For All Pen And Paper is very difficult change. Did everyone have a laptop too to take to meetings and keep in the car? Or was note taking only allowed at their desk (Ya this product had success written all over it, no pun intended)
What I really took away from your two views is this; Stay away from the products that are difficult or painful for the customer to use. (Make?s me think ?Set it ? and Forget it? ? Gotta just admire Mr Popeil)
Thank again John; you have writing yet another great post. I can?t wait to read your newsletter.
ReplyThe first copywriting client I landed was with Vedic astrologer (like I said, it was my first client…) who ran a consulting business.
(For the record it was a serious business, not one of those “entertainment only” ventures).
The first version of the copy I wrote for him failed terribly. It wrongly targetted the general public trying to convince them of the authenticity of this ancient form of astrology.
It had a conversion rate of – 5%.
I say it had a negative conversion rate, because the only response it generated was angry phone calls.
The copy was trying to educate the “no way I’m buying into that” people as to why they should buy.
We finally got it converting by focusing more on benefits and USP — at which point the astrologer decided he couldn’t deliver as promised and closed his business.
(Again, it was my first copywriting job — and for the record I got paid in full).
Thank you John, great post. Especially the reality check message at the beginning about working with your audience at the level they are truly at (not what we wish they where at).
John
http://www.realitycopywriting.com
John,
I have a new title for you: MASTER OF MARKETING REALITY (Not to be confused with an old album of a similar name).
Quite frankly I’ve been a bit puzzled with the “education in copy” thing. My problem was grouping education into the “more you tell, the more you sell” conotation.
Now, thanks to your advanced explaination I’m beginning to see the light.
We as master sales people (or students in my case) SHOULD be concerned with the reality folks live day to day–and try to connect with folks who are predisposed to hear your offer.
It sure is a noisy world out there. The more we can understand how folks “tick” the better off we are as marketers (not to mention successful).
I can’t help but believe getting into the prospects “space” and addressing her wants will drastically improve your sales message.
As far as the “old fashion” quill and paper is concerned, I too am a big fan of writing it down.
My day job, at least until my pencil is razor sharp, is working in IT. My colleague keeps harping on me to use my electronic contact manager/calender. I’ve seen too many PCs crash and burn, along with all the data.
John, AKA Master of Marketing Reality, I sincerely thank you for sharing your wisdom.
Warmly,
Emette Massey
P.S. In case you actually read any of the comments posted, and particularly this one, you are welcome to use the phrase “Master of Marketing Reality” any time, any place (without charge or cost) Ha, Ha!
Later Dude!
ReplyIt all boils down to being aligned with your clients. I have a great example to share. I recently met with some lively ladies who wanted marketing and copywriting advice. I gave a complimentary consultation to see if we were a good fit. When they rolled out their tag line ?If you’re not happy, we haven’t done our job”, I was astounded. I tried to explain the conversation this positioning would promote in their potential clients heads. The response, “Well, that’s not what we’re saying.” Yeah, well, that’s what customers are hearing and the mere thought that I might not be happy or that they might not do their job was enough for me to walk away and cut my losses.
On the technology front, it?s nice to hear I?m not the only one who still scribbles my information in a planner for safekeeping.
Thanks again for sharing.
ReplyGreat post!
I just discovered this blog via Copyblogger and I already can tell this is
good stuff written by a top-drawer cpopywriter.
I’m looking forward to reading this regularly.
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