Comments on: DIY vs. Mentoring http://www.john-carlton.com/2009/10/diy-vs-mentoring/ The Marketing Rebel RANT Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:59:27 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Internet Marketing Diva http://www.john-carlton.com/2009/10/diy-vs-mentoring/comment-page-1/#comment-14775 Internet Marketing Diva Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:52:25 +0000 http://www.john-carlton.com/?p=651#comment-14775 John, this is one of THE most powerful posts that I have EVER read. And I have been online for quite a while. I am no longer mad at myself for being a do-it-yourself kind of girl. I also do understand the importance of getting a caring mentor. There's a huge difference in having a mentor and having a MENTOR. Keep up the great work. John, this is one of THE most powerful posts that I have EVER read. And I have been online for quite a while.

I am no longer mad at myself for being a do-it-yourself kind of girl. I also do understand the importance of getting a caring mentor. There’s a huge difference in having a mentor and having a MENTOR.

Keep up the great work.

]]> By: James http://www.john-carlton.com/2009/10/diy-vs-mentoring/comment-page-1/#comment-14764 James Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:01:44 +0000 http://www.john-carlton.com/?p=651#comment-14764 John, I had that exact same flannel shirt! Great post man. James John, I had that exact same flannel shirt!
Great post man.
James

]]> By: Walter Daniels http://www.john-carlton.com/2009/10/diy-vs-mentoring/comment-page-1/#comment-14683 Walter Daniels Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:31:34 +0000 http://www.john-carlton.com/?p=651#comment-14683 Your "story" about how you got started, and what mentoring means to you, is great. I got a great piece about writing, about 36 years ago that I've always tried to follow. In simple terms it was. "Be yourself, and write as if they are right in front of you." It may not be PC, or even the best way, but it works for me. :-) I agree on determination to succeed. I'm currently rehabbing in a Nursing Home, to rebuild leg strength, in spite of being ~85% paralyzed from a back injury (degen. disk disease from T11 to L5). I could just vegetate, but I work to rebuild so I can get out. Meanwhile, I work on finishing a book to "teach" everything I learned about Advertising, Marketing and Selling, over my lifetime (I'm 60 now), including being really bad at selling, when I was young (couldn't even give away free samples). Later, I learned two things. Be passionate about what you sell (want to fill _their_ needs). Second, make it two people talking about the product/service, not me selling to you. That means take time to be honest, and be friendly. It won't make a sale right away, but leads to a lifetime of buyers. I can't afford the SWS, on what's left of my disability check now, but when I can. The honesty and way you write makes me want it. I count you as one of my "mentors," even though I've never met you, and appreciate what I learn from you. Your “story” about how you got started, and what mentoring means to you, is great. I got a great piece about writing, about 36 years ago that I’ve always tried to follow. In simple terms it was. “Be yourself, and write as if they are right in front of you.” It may not be PC, or even the best way, but it works for me. :-)
I agree on determination to succeed. I’m currently rehabbing in a Nursing Home, to rebuild leg strength, in spite of being ~85% paralyzed from a back injury (degen. disk disease from T11 to L5). I could just vegetate, but I work to rebuild so I can get out. Meanwhile, I work on finishing a book to “teach” everything I learned about Advertising, Marketing and Selling, over my lifetime (I’m 60 now), including being really bad at selling, when I was young (couldn’t even give away free samples). Later, I learned two things.
Be passionate about what you sell (want to fill _their_ needs). Second, make it two people talking about the product/service, not me selling to you. That means take time to be honest, and be friendly. It won’t make a sale right away, but leads to a lifetime of buyers. I can’t afford the SWS, on what’s left of my disability check now, but when I can. The honesty and way you write makes me want it. I count you as one of my “mentors,” even though I’ve never met you, and appreciate what I learn from you.

]]> By: Captain Rob http://www.john-carlton.com/2009/10/diy-vs-mentoring/comment-page-1/#comment-14673 Captain Rob Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:01:41 +0000 http://www.john-carlton.com/?p=651#comment-14673 Damn John, you are funny. Well, a funny writer anyway. Harharhar.... I'm spittin' tea (what I drink after the pot of coffee) on my laptop! I'm a bigtime DIY'er kind of guy. I read, read, and read more on anything and everything. I'm afraid to look back through old photos of myself way back when I was starting out in grownup life. I think I just felt a shiver down me back..... Arrr. Captain Rob Damn John, you are funny. Well, a funny writer anyway. Harharhar….

I’m spittin’ tea (what I drink after the pot of coffee) on my laptop!

I’m a bigtime DIY’er kind of guy. I read, read, and read more on anything and everything.

I’m afraid to look back through old photos of myself way back when I was starting out in grownup life. I think I just felt a shiver down me back…..

Arrr. Captain Rob

]]> By: Clovis http://www.john-carlton.com/2009/10/diy-vs-mentoring/comment-page-1/#comment-14606 Clovis Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:17:50 +0000 http://www.john-carlton.com/?p=651#comment-14606 Razvan...it is pure 100% commercial. No bonding required. Sell Sell Sell. Best wishes, Clovis P.S. You can get your copy of "The Simple Writing System" at: http://www.simplewritingsystem.com/ Get over there now! Razvan…it is pure 100% commercial.
No bonding required. Sell Sell Sell.

Best wishes,
Clovis

P.S. You can get your copy of “The Simple Writing System” at:
http://www.simplewritingsystem.com/
Get over there now!

]]> By: ofigennoe.ru http://www.john-carlton.com/2009/10/diy-vs-mentoring/comment-page-1/#comment-14596 ofigennoe.ru Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:34:08 +0000 http://www.john-carlton.com/?p=651#comment-14596 This is the second entry I read tonight. And I am on my third. Got to think which one is next. Thank you. This is the second entry I read tonight. And I am on my third. Got to think which one is next. Thank you.

]]> By: Razvan http://www.john-carlton.com/2009/10/diy-vs-mentoring/comment-page-1/#comment-14595 Razvan Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:57:53 +0000 http://www.john-carlton.com/?p=651#comment-14595 Then it seems that I have the chance to make history myself. Being a copywriter is a lousy perspective unless ... unless you want to become the best. By the best I understand writing famous promotions (like the "One legged golfer" or Oglivy's "Rolls Royce Ad") or why not ... become the best paid copywriter possible. One thing though ... something I don't really understand. Copywriters in the past had limited opportunities, they could write for companies like Agora, Philips, maybe enroll in AWAI. Now, with the launch of info products ... what stops us writing for us? As an example, instead of writing a copy for $100.000 flat fee + royalties ... any good copywriter could create a launch product sequence (the ones promoted by Frank Kern) and make $100.000 ... $500.000 ... or even one million in 24 hours. I really believe now (the 21th century and the info products revolution) is the best time to work in marketing. Regards, Razvan PS: Thank you for your reply. I don't know if this blog is for commercial purposes only or you want to bond with your subscribers ... but your advices and personal replies are much better than a lot of commercial products out there. Then it seems that I have the chance to make history myself.
Being a copywriter is a lousy perspective unless … unless you want to become the best.
By the best I understand writing famous promotions (like the “One legged golfer” or Oglivy’s “Rolls Royce Ad”) or why not … become the best paid copywriter possible.

One thing though … something I don’t really understand. Copywriters in the past had limited opportunities, they could write for companies like Agora, Philips, maybe enroll in AWAI.
Now, with the launch of info products … what stops us writing for us?
As an example, instead of writing a copy for $100.000 flat fee + royalties … any good copywriter could create a launch product sequence (the ones promoted by Frank Kern) and make $100.000 … $500.000 … or even one million in 24 hours.

I really believe now (the 21th century and the info products revolution) is the best time to work in marketing.

Regards,
Razvan

PS: Thank you for your reply. I don’t know if this blog is for commercial purposes only or you want to bond with your subscribers … but your advices and personal replies are much better than a lot of commercial products out there.

]]> By: John Carlton http://www.john-carlton.com/2009/10/diy-vs-mentoring/comment-page-1/#comment-14590 John Carlton Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:06:41 +0000 http://www.john-carlton.com/?p=651#comment-14590 No, Razvan, I was in my thirties. I partied hardy during my teens and twenties. Original slacker. Wasted a lot of time, having fun. Got busy when I realized it was time to get serious about carving out a place for myself in the world. John No, Razvan, I was in my thirties. I partied hardy during my teens and twenties. Original slacker. Wasted a lot of time, having fun.
Got busy when I realized it was time to get serious about carving out a place for myself in the world.
John

]]> By: Razvan http://www.john-carlton.com/2009/10/diy-vs-mentoring/comment-page-1/#comment-14582 Razvan Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:36:13 +0000 http://www.john-carlton.com/?p=651#comment-14582 Great blog post John, You've got me hooked of your articles now. I kind of share your situation ... at least in some ways. I'm a copywriter, just turned 19 and have my plans for world domination ... sorry ... writing great copy in order. I could say that I've heard the same stories of "you can't do that", "get a real job", "go to college" ... again and again ... and proving them wrong is an good enough motivator as my goals are. Right now I study more on the Makepeace/Kennedy side ... but I'll give your program a try as soon as possible. One question: You were 19 when you wrote your first letter for Jay Abraham? There are not so many people at my age writing copy and improving daily ... so seeing someone who started the same way is very motivational. Thanks, Razvan Great blog post John,

You’ve got me hooked of your articles now. I kind of share your situation … at least in some ways.
I’m a copywriter, just turned 19 and have my plans for world domination … sorry … writing great copy in order.
I could say that I’ve heard the same stories of “you can’t do that”, “get a real job”, “go to college” … again and again … and proving them wrong is an good enough motivator as my goals are.

Right now I study more on the Makepeace/Kennedy side … but I’ll give your program a try as soon as possible.

One question: You were 19 when you wrote your first letter for Jay Abraham?
There are not so many people at my age writing copy and improving daily … so seeing someone who started the same way is very motivational.

Thanks,
Razvan

]]> By: Devin http://www.john-carlton.com/2009/10/diy-vs-mentoring/comment-page-1/#comment-14561 Devin Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:02:09 +0000 http://www.john-carlton.com/?p=651#comment-14561 I just purchased it too, before it is taken off the market-I own just about every big marketer's course, and still have yet to dig into them. The reason I got this was I missed out on the coaching program, and didn't want to miss this. Being a lazy bum I also did not want to take the long hard journey as John Carlton did-I already do it in too many places in life. Also if he can write that persuasive a letter, have so many people credit him with helping them so much (Frank Kern, Ken McCarthy) and Dan Kennedy's stamp of approval, then it appears all that is needed is my desire to do it to get it going and apply the info. I met John for the first time briefly at Mass Control seminar in San Diego, spending 2 years with the Navy right now saving money, and investing, and now getting my business journey started! Next time I meet him, at least I'll be able to know what to ask him and thank him for the great learning! Looking forward to the journey... Aloha, Devin I just purchased it too, before it is taken off the market-I own just about every big marketer’s course, and still have yet to dig into them. The reason I got this was I missed out on the coaching program, and didn’t want to miss this.

Being a lazy bum I also did not want to take the long hard journey as John Carlton did-I already do it in too many places in life.

Also if he can write that persuasive a letter, have so many people credit him with helping them so much (Frank Kern, Ken McCarthy) and Dan Kennedy’s stamp of approval, then it appears all that is needed is my desire to do it to get it going and apply the info.

I met John for the first time briefly at Mass Control seminar in San Diego, spending 2 years with the Navy right now saving money, and investing, and now getting my business journey started! Next time I meet him, at least I’ll be able to know what to ask him and thank him for the great learning!

Looking forward to the journey…
Aloha, Devin

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