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		<description><![CDATA[Saturday, 7:58pm Tampa, FL Howdy&#8230; Hey, a big &#8220;first&#8221; for this blog today: We have a guest writer filling in! Let me introduce you to Kevin Rogers, an experienced, savvy, successful copywriter (who has earned a spot on my &#8220;Inside Team&#8221;) who brings a unique perspective on writing sales copy. See, his first line of]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturday, 7:58pm<br />
Tampa, FL</p>
<p>Howdy&#8230;</p>
<p>Hey, a big &#8220;first&#8221; for this blog today: We have a guest writer filling in!</p>
<p>Let me introduce you to Kevin Rogers, an experienced, savvy, successful copywriter (who has earned a spot on my &#8220;Inside Team&#8221;) who brings a unique perspective on writing sales copy.</p>
<p>See, his first line of work was stand-up comedy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been pushing him to dig into the lessons he learned as a stand-up&#8230; which I intuitively know also apply to writing copy&#8230; and share.</p>
<p>For over four years, I&#8217;ve been the sole person to post on this blog&#8230; and I&#8217;ve always wanted to bring in other ink-stained wretches to guest-post.  Kevin won the lead-off job by having the best story to tell.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m outa here, on a brief and rare day off.  I&#8217;ll post again next week.</p>
<p>You, however, need to read Kevin&#8217;s take on writing copy, below.  It&#8217;s excellent stuff.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s have a warm round of applause for&#8230;</p>
<p>Kevin Rogers.  Ladies and gentlemen, Kevin Rogers&#8230; (here ya go, Kevin&#8230; don&#8217;t blow it&#8230;)</p>
<p>Thanks, John.</p>
<p>Hello, everybody.</p>
<p>I’m honored to have scored this gig writing the first guest post on John’s “Big Damn Blog.”</p>
<p>As a kid I dreamed of filling in for Johnny Carson as guest host on “The Tonight Show”&#8230; and while I did spend a wild decade performing stand-up in comedy clubs and college bars all over the U.S., I never got near Johnny’s shoes.</p>
<p>However, for a copywriter&#8230; this is the equivalent.</p>
<p>Carlton is to the blogosphere what Carson was to late-night TV: the hip, gracious, straight-shooting host who always leaves you better off than before you tuned in.</p>
<p>I’ll do my best to fill up “Johnny’s desk” here the way a raw and relevant Jay Leno once did&#8230; and not just read from cue cards, like Ed McMahon.</p>
<p>You may have noticed a lot of copywriters are also recovering entertainers. It makes perfect sense actually, for a few reasons:</p>
<p>First, the work pattern is very similar.</p>
<p>You wake up whenever you want, perform at your optimum level for a few hours, and then avoid going crazy until it’s time to perform again.</p>
<p>Second, writers and comics are all twisted in the same way. Someone once asked W.C. Fields what makes a comedian laugh.</p>
<p>He said: If you want to make an audience laugh, you dress a guy up like an old lady and push him down a flight of stairs. If you want to make a comedian laugh&#8230; you have to use a <em>real </em>old lady.</p>
<p>I’d say that’s accurate. But it works even better if the old lady was Ruth Madoff.</p>
<p>(Bonus similarity between writers and comics: Neither can resist one-upping someone else&#8217;s tag line.)</p>
<p>Anyway, the parallels in psychology between writing killer sales copy and slaying an audience with stand-up are endless&#8230; mostly because copywriters and comics come from the same school…</p>
<p>&#8230;the one where class clowns get to outshine the class president.</p>
<p>Whether you’re after the sale &#8212; or the laugh &#8212; the same ass-saving strategy used by smart runts on the playground to keep bullies at bay will take you a long way toward closing the deal.</p>
<p>The kids with comic blood found safe ground as court jesters, while the kids with salesman’s blood kept their lunch money by playing the role of “trusted adviser.”</p>
<p>The approaches may differ slightly in detail, but underneath it’s all about <strong>persuasion</strong>.</p>
<p>So, here now, for your useful enjoyment, are 3 important copy lessons on persuasion I learned from the comedy stage:</p>
<p><strong>1. You’ve Got About 6 Seconds To Win Your Audience.</strong></p>
<p>People are stingier than ever with their attention these days. There’s no room for error in that critical first impression.</p>
<p>Performing in a comedy club gives you the slight advantage of facing an audience that actually wants you to succeed. They stood in line, they paid a cover, and they want their date in a good mood later.</p>
<p>Still, that opening is crucial.</p>
<p>The first joke must be 3 things: Relevant… pithy… and quick to establish your character.  It also needs to be an applause line. For sales copy, as Carlton says, money is applause.</p>
<p>When your ad lands in front of a reader, he’s begging you to screw up, lose his interest and let him off the hook so he can jump off your greased slide and go do something else.</p>
<p>And you can triple that risk online, where every visitor enters your page with an index finger poised on a hair-trigger mouse click&#8230; just praying for any excuse to zap you into oblivion.</p>
<p>If your message fails to spark interest and resonate with your reader in those first few seconds, you’re dead.</p>
<p>So, the key to a powerful first impression is: <strong>Know your audience</strong>.</p>
<p>A seasoned comic can take one look at a crowd and know the best joke to open with, how often to curse, and how to close the show.</p>
<p>As marketers, we do our peeking from behind the curtain by stalking available data on potential buyers.</p>
<p>That means: Engage your niche in forums&#8230; survey existing customers&#8230; attend seminars… and do everything else you can to mind-meld with your target audience. People love to tell you what they want to buy and why they want to buy it.</p>
<p>Listen close enough and the copy practically writes itself.</p>
<p><strong>2. Create A Penetrating Hook And &#8220;Pay It Off&#8221; Big.</strong></p>
<p>In both stand-up and copywriting, ensuring your audience will hang with you requires a strong hook.</p>
<p>Like John teaches, it’s all about shaking your audience out their zombie state and getting them to lean in closer, wide awake and receptive.</p>
<p>And the best hooks will buy you undivided attention. (No one is going anywhere until they find out how a “one-legged golfer” drives the ball further than they do.)</p>
<p>But never forget the golden rule: You must <em>pay off </em>your hooks!</p>
<p>I’m amazed at how many marketers miss this. They craft a compelling hook, announce it in the headline, then fail to ever mention it again in the letter.</p>
<p>What the hell is <em>that </em>all about?</p>
<p>Some even do it on purpose under the false assumption it will create curiosity.</p>
<p>It does not.</p>
<p>It creates frustration and destroys trust.</p>
<p>(I don’t have space for tips on creating hooks here, but the best lesson I’ve ever seen is in the “Simple Writing System.” If John ever releases it again &#8212; and begging can&#8217;t hurt &#8212; that section on hooks alone is worth whatever price he decides to charge for it.)</p>
<p><strong>3. Use Segues To Switch Topics Smoothly.</strong></p>
<p>A typical comedy audience is not quite as demographically targeted as a typical direct marketing list.</p>
<p>In the club, you’ve got about equal parts dude and chick… and then a <em>wide </em>range of age, interest, intelligence, and alcohol consumption to deal with.</p>
<p>So, comics tend to write material with general themes that anyone can relate to, like dating and pop culture. The goal is to cover a variety of subjects so everyone feels involved in the show.</p>
<p>However, getting the audience to follow you from a joke about “your awkward first kiss” to one about those whacky “ShamWow” commercials can be tricky.</p>
<p>So comics use clever segues that quickly tie the subjects together and smooth any bumps in transition.</p>
<p>For instance, in the example above you might transition the topics by saying something like&#8230;</p>
<p>“That first kiss is a sloppy affair, too&#8230; drool everywhere.  You need a ShamWow bib just to keep your shirt dry.</p>
<p>(… beat…)</p>
<p>You’ve seen those commercials for ShamWow, haven’t you&#8230;”</p>
<p>See. Nothing special, just enough to take their minds where you need them to go.</p>
<p>In sales letters you can use the “bucket brigade” list of short phrases that make the page flow smoothly through transitions and keep a reader’s attention.</p>
<p>For instance&#8230;</p>
<p>Right there where I said, “for instance&#8230;” is a bucket brigade term.</p>
<p>And not only that, but…</p>
<p>There are hundreds of these phrases, and you can easily go back and drop them in after you’ve written your copy.</p>
<p>But first, a word of caution:</p>
<p>Using too many bucket brigade terms together like this can backfire by giving your reader &#8220;Eyeball Whiplash&#8221;.  Moderation, and timing, are key.</p>
<p>So, there you have it.</p>
<p>Next time you’re stuck on a piece of copy, flip on Comedy Central for a few minutes. You might find the answer you’re looking for, and if not, at least you can laugh about it.</p>
<p>Thanks for having me. You’ve been great&#8230;</p>
<p>Try the veal!</p>
<p><strong>Kevin</strong></p>
<p><strong>P.S.</strong> For more inspired musings and off-color anecdotes, please visit my blog <a href="http://www.rogerscopy.com/blog">www.rogerscopy.com/blog</a>. Or follow me on Twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/kevinrogers">www.twitter.com/kevinrogers </a></p>
<p><strong>P.P.S.</strong> You weren’t going to let me get away with not paying off the title of this post, were you?</p>
<p>Let’s have some fun: The title is, “Two Copywriters Walk Into A Bar&#8230;”</p>
<p>Let’s finish the joke. I’ll go first&#8230;</p>
<p>Two copywriters walk into a bar&#8230; a rookie and an A-Lister.</p>
<p>The rookie copywriter says, “I’ll have a Scotch&#8230; whatever you have in the well is fine.”</p>
<p>The A-List copywriter says, “I’ll have Scotch, too, but make mine the 25 year old Macallan.”</p>
<p>The bartender hands them their drinks.</p>
<p>The rookie takes a sip of his cheap Scotch and winces, “<em>Aacchhh</em>&#8230;” he says. “That tastes horrible!”</p>
<p>After a short pause, he grabs the A-list copywriter’s glass of Macallan and takes a giant swig.</p>
<p>The A-lister says, “Hey&#8230; what the hell are you doing!?”</p>
<p>The rookie says, “Split testing.”</p>
<p>Ba-dum-<em>dum</em>.</p>
<p>OK, now give me your punch lines in the comment section. It doesn’t have to be brilliant (as I‘ve skillfully demonstrated), just have fun. It’s good brain exercise.</p>
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